After months of the nutty birthers parsing, julienning and cross-cutting the previous statements of Hawaiian officials about President Barack Obama's citizenship, Hawaii has finally made a more definitive pronouncement. Obama is a citizen, and a natural-born one at that.
The craziest part of this whole idiotic theory is that it is based upon fragments of truth, wild supposition, and completely manufactured data. For instance, even though it says "Place of Birth: Honolulu" plainly on the Certificate of Live Birth (the infamous "short form"), birthers have argued that it is possible to get a Hawaiian certificate for foreign births. Even though this turns out to be untrue (such a document would list the foreign place of birth, not Honolulu), they continue to believe it.
Simultaneously, some believe that the short form is a forgery outright. They claim it is his sister Maya's, with the details altered. But Maya wasn't born in in the states, and she doesn't have a Hawaiian birth certificate. Doesn't matter, it is part of the lore anyway. The whole theory is built upon a house of imaginary cards. But the birthers hold so fast to their original theory, they haven't noticed that the lower cards have been swept away, and that the house is kept aloft by sheer force of will.
So, will this bulletproof pronouncement by Hawaiian officials end things? I doubt it. Hell, I'm sure it won't. Even the long requested "long form" wouldn't do it now, nor sworn testimony by the geriatric delivery team. If Obama had "Made in Hawaii" tattooed on his butt in 1961, with photographic evidence, it wouldn't be enough. Crazy people don't do reality.
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Hawaii health director insists Obama natural-born.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai’i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago….”
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Question - what exactly is the "original" birth certificate based upon? That is, is it possible that Obama's grandparents submitted sworn statements to the effect that they witnessed the birth, and gave additional details that went into the long form certificate? It just seems a little strange to me that there aren't dozens of people coming forward who were "there at the moment of O's birth." Doctors, midwives, nurses, friends . . . anyone at all . . . not a thing. Nada. Take this together with the possibility that a long form birth certificate can be created based upon sworn statements filed by the grandparents (which, by the way, I have no idea is possible or not - just asking) - add in the fact that O doesn't want to release these forms - seems a little odd to me. It would also be interesting to see what citizenship is listed for O's mother on the long form - she apparently renounced her US Citizenship at some point. Just something to think about, is all I'm saying.
ReplyDeleteOh, and one other thing. The newspaper announcements of O's birth . . . apparently, the address listed in at least the first announcement that came to light is NOT the address of either O's mama or daddy. It's an address for a family that has nothing whatsoever to do with the Obamas/Soetoros. What's up with that?
ReplyDeleteHere’s Obama’s dilemma in a nutshell (READ VERY CAREFULLY AND DIGEST):
ReplyDeleteIf BHO shows his original long form birth certificate, indeed showing he was born in Hawaii, it will also show his father was American citizen, Frank Marshall Davis, not the Kenyan/British citizen, Barack Obama Sr. While that would allow Barack Jr. to be POTUS eligible as BOTH a “citizen”/“native born citizen” AND an Article 2 “natural born citizen” — that is, born to two American citizens on American soil — it would simultaneously show he is a fraud hiding his real father — an unacceptable political debacle.
If, on the other hand, BHO keeps hiding his original long form birth certificate — while simply repeating, without showing, he was born in Hawaii — he can still CLAIM BOTH he was born in Hawaii AND his father was the Kenyan/British Barack Obama Sr. This would enable Barack Jr. to claim he’s a “citizen”/“native born citizen” but it would mean (if a federal court would ever get around to declaring and thus far no one has standing to bring the suit) that he’s NOT an Article 2 “natural born citizen” and thus not eligible to be POTUS — a legal/constitutional debacle since all acts under an illegal POTUS are void.
So it seems, BHO has elected option one until forced to go option two because for now it looks like no federal court will ever find a plaintiff with standing. (Of course, there’s the additional issue of BHO losing American citizen status if/when he became an Indonesian citizen — that is, IF he returned and was naturalized he would be a legal citizen, but would lose both native and natural born status, and, IF he returned and was not naturalized, he would be an illegal immigrant unlawfully in this country — but we’ll leave that for another day.)
FAIL. Your fantasy about Obama's parantage is completely unsubstantiated. And your criteria for "natural born citizen" holds to a strict criteria that hasn't been applied to past presidents, Such as Chester Arthur.
ReplyDeleteThe standard you are speaking of--I believe--was constructed to explain John McCain's citizenship. There, it was argued, that McCain was born in Panama, possibly off base (a wholly more believable theory than the Obama one). THERE, it was declared that since McCain had two citizen parents, he was de facto a citizen. It did NOT say EVERYBODY needs to have two citizen parents.
This is wishful thinking to keep the conspiracy theory going beyond the Birth Certificate (which has been certified as genuine).
Again, FAIL.
And going back and creating plotlines around the birth announcement are ridiculous. For what possible purpose would his parents and grandparents have created this flurry of obfuscation FORTY-EIGHT YEARS AGO?